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Old February 16th, 2012, 08:45 AM
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So my brother fainted in the gym today. Can you help me here?

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So I took my 19yr old brother to the gym today. A light session. Just some 20lbs bench presses, barbell rows (bar alone) and some pushups.

So after the barbell rows (2nd set) he sat down, and drank a huge gulp of water. In say abt 5 mins, he started feeling headed, then almost collapsed. Luckily I caught him as I was at that point helping him stretch his back.

Now, my gym has no aircon or fan, just huge open windows and it can get really humid and sweaty.

Once I took him downstairs, he kept yawning a lot, like about 10 times in total. His vision was a bit blurred.

Once he was in the clear with fresh air, he became normal and was ok. Now he seems totally fine.

If I didn't provide any information needed, just ask away. Am concerned for his wellbeing so I decided to ask here...
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Old February 17th, 2012, 01:09 AM
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What did he eat or what did he consume and how far before he worked out was the meals etc...
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Old February 17th, 2012, 04:48 AM
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You need to get your brother to a doctor. It's most likely nothing but this isn't the place to diagnose that.

That little shiny sticker on every piece of gym equipment doesn't say:

"If you feel lightheaded, nauseous or dizzy during any exercise, stop immediately and seek medical attention."

for nothing
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Old February 17th, 2012, 04:52 AM
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He had a protein shake with a serving of greens before working out, say 20mins before.

3 hrs before that he had a regular lunch (meat + veggies)

Yes, he was checked and they said all was good. Didn't give a solid answer to why he fainted tho...

He kept yawning a lot once he got outside for air. Is that a clue to anything?
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Old February 17th, 2012, 01:22 PM
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What about hydration? I occasionally see this in my gym, when a client hasn't been drinking enough water throughout the day.
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Old February 17th, 2012, 02:54 PM
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check out Neurocardiogenic syncope or orthostasis.

I am sure they got some blood work to check out electrolytes and an ekg to ruleout anything cardiac.

Hydration is usually the culprit in these cases.
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Old February 17th, 2012, 09:40 PM
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[quote=goldwave84;603669]He kept yawning a lot once he got outside for air. Is that a clue to anything?[

Yawning used to be believed to be the cause of lack of oxygen to the lungs (I.E. not breathing enough) but I know that this theory is also debunked by many experts as well. I've heard as well that yawning can be increased by using a lot of arginine which induces the neuropeptides / neurotransmitters.

I just know enough lifters yawn, have yawned, etc... that it is nothing I generally worry about. I often will yawn during a work out no matter how pumped I am.
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Old February 20th, 2012, 07:12 PM
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I also yawn quite a bit, and have been told that my breathing isn't proper causing me to get light headed and tunnel vision. Obviously the doctor is the best choice to assess what happened. Its good to hear that it wasn't a bad fall with the faint, in a gym full of steel plates and metal bars it could have been worse than it was. I'm curious as to what the doctor says. Keep us posted and good luck.
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Old February 28th, 2012, 05:58 AM
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Luckily I caught him as I was at that point helping him stretch his back.
I believe nadolsky is on to something with the orthostasis observation. Also known as Orthostatic Hypotension, this can sneak up on you.

I've struggled with this since I hit a growth spurt and shot up to 6'6 in height as a teenager. I used to think I was malnourished (I was a gangly 6'6!), but it appears even when eating great and exercising I will still experience almost exactly what your brother experienced. Minus the yawning (more on that in a moment).

I quoted your statement that he was stretching when it occurred. Typically the faintness associated with this physiological reaction is associated with going to standing from a sitting or laying position. Let me be the first... Well, second to tell you. A big stretch can do it, quickly. Even after having been walking around and moving about, a good stretch can sometimes recreate the event with alarming precision.

If you're interested, here is some further reading on the topic.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/ort...ension/DS00997

As that article mentions, it's probably not much of an issue. If it persists and gets worse, it may warrant checking in with your doctor. There are medications if it becomes a serious issue.

Now... The yawning.

My best guess on this one based on your description of the environment is it was a form of thermoregulation. There is evidence that suggests yawning is yet another means for the body to cool itself down in some instances. Given the circumstances of a hot environment with a drop in blood pressure and a temporary semiconscious state, it's quite plausible his system was simply cooling itself in the best way it knew how.

Or maybe he was just bored... ;)

If you want to learn more about yawning and thermoregulation than you ever wanted to know, check this out!

http://www.x-halo.com/uploads/Yawnin...regulation.pdf

They experimented on everything from parakeets to college students. Oh those pesky physiologists!
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Old March 6th, 2012, 02:49 PM
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Hi GOLDWAVE 84,

It would seem your brother is in good company. Here is a quote from a well known fellow that has worked out with weights a time or two. "I have no fear of fainting in the gym. I have fainted many times." Arnold Schwarzenger from the movie PUMPING IRON. So you can see there is no reason for you brother to use fainting as an excuse to get out of working out with you. Of course if he starts training alone he might want to wear a helmet so if he hits his head when he faints he won't get blood all over the weights, that blood is salty and will cause the weights to rust.

All seriousness aside, hope it is not a real medical condition that can't be easily treated.

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