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Old December 5th, 2007, 01:17 PM
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Sharks in the Water

Why am I paying full price for a club that I can only use half of?
Isn't having a women's section akin to reverse sexism? No, never mind the reverse part, it is segregative gender-based discrimination! Someone call a lawyer, my rights are being violated!
If women have their own side and the panty-waist men have taken over the main area, where can I lift real weights?
You want to know of a sure way to tell whether a girl is easy? She's easy if she works out in the main area. Think about it, if she performs her workout in the main area and not the women's area it's because she wants attention and definitely gets down.
The above combo of claims, observations, protestations and politically incorrect suppositions are but just a few quips I've overheard (and a couple I've even thought) in my time attending facilities with women's only areas.

It's no wonder she isn't making any real body comp changes, all she does is cardio.
You don't lift weights, sweetie. You play with pink trinkets.
Why are women afraid to lift real weight?
Why are women afraid of performing real exercises? They spend all their time standing on a bosu ball performing 30 rep dumbbell biceps curls.
Have you seen what they have in the women's area? They seriously have pink dumbbells, a couple yoga mats, a smith machine and 300 cardio contraptions.
These, like the first set of remarks are the tip of the iceberg of similarly themed commentary coming out of the mouths of male gym goers and internet keyboard jockeys. And like the first set, I find myself in partial agreement. After all, while the genders certainly have special needs, hard work and effective exercises are commonalities. Commonalities that theoretically would lead one to posit that one large well equipped space should accommodate both genders without the need for special treatment.

Unfortunately, this isn't the case. Why? Because there are sharks in the water. And I'm not talking about any old shark, I'm talking about Great Whites. Friggin' predators.

Fellas, seriously, by and large women go to the gym to workout. They might go to socialize or to feel better about themselves, but they don't go to get picked up - main area or otherwise. It's hard to grasp, I know, but lululemon pants aren't the international sign for stare at her ass and opine on the merits of feeling the pump. And as hard as it is to believe, the squat isn't an in - you lame, unoriginal Carcharodon carcharias.

So, now after being told this, is it any surprise that women avoid exercises that risk exposure to your suggestions? Or a shock that they aim to avoid you whenever possible?

I know, I know you're just trying to be the nice guy and offer advice, right? Well, my man, the last time I checked, women do stop and ask for directions. If she needs help, she'll ask. But be aware that she probably won't ask you. Why? Because you're wearing a smeedium sized 'beater and grunting like a fool while staring at her ass, that's why!

So please fellas, resist your carnal delusions and let the women of this world workout in peace.
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Old December 5th, 2007, 01:55 PM
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It's hard to grasp, I know, but lululemon pants aren't the international sign for stare at her ass and opine on the merits of feeling the pump.
Carter, it's like you read my mind!!! Thanks for posting
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Old December 5th, 2007, 02:24 PM
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It's funny, when I thought much like the comments posted I didn't have a great relationship. When I realized that women present themselves to look their best more for themselves and for comparison to other women, not for the guys so much, and the other lessons presented above, I had a great relationship.

hmmm, so when I was young and focused pretty much only on sex I had none, and when I did have some I had no real relationship. When I stopped focusing on sex and started focusing on the person, I had lots of sex and great relationships.

Funny how that works. A lesson there for the young studs?
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Old December 21st, 2007, 04:53 PM
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Amen! Thank you for posting this. It's true womens' sections don't have enough equipment, they do have little pink dumbells, there's no bench press, etc., but they certainly have a more comfortable atmosphere. It would be nice to just have one section where there's equipment for everyone. But, because of comments and attitudes like these, I do most of my workouts in the womens' section, and only go to the common area when I need to use equipment that the women's section doesn't have.
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Old December 23rd, 2007, 09:51 PM
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Isn't having a women's section akin to reverse sexism? No, never mind the reverse part, it is segregative gender-based discrimination! Someone call a lawyer, my rights are being violated!

I use to work at a gym that had womens hours every day. I heard numerous complaints from people complaining about why it is unfair for there to be an hour when guys can't come and work out. The official reason is due to religious reasons where certain women don't/can't work out with males around. I've had women come in from the changeroom and then change in the weight room to shorts and t-shirt and then put back on their long pants/shirt to walk back to the changeroom.
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Old January 1st, 2008, 12:04 PM
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I challenge any man to enter my `Women`s Section`

We were banished to a special area of our public gym because of female powerlifters kept out lifting 80% of the general male gym public and the egos were not taking it well.

This is NOT male bashing (I love men! Well real men, much like Ryan likes real food), just stating the facts.

Good post.

I own pink pajamas but no pink dumbbells.

My first set of dumbbells were blue. I stole them from my brother`s bedroom late at night and lifted in secret. I never stopped.

Also, pondering... I don`t think I have ever been hit on in a gym. Any thoughts as to why. I don`t think I`m repulsive but I have thought lots of things only to discover how wrong I was. Come to think of it I have hardly been hit on anytime, anywhere ... HMMM... I have always had to do the hitting (on).

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Old January 1st, 2008, 06:29 PM
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Well Krista, as life has it I won't be hitting on you, but it wouldn't be a big leap. In your pics (I haven't met you in person yet), you are beautiful, strong woman. I think that may be part of it. How many men like strong women? I'd say plenty in number, but little in percentages.

And I'm not talking about just the body, that is clearly strong and in full view of any onlooker, I'm talking about the strong person. I don't know too many men that know themselves enough to have the confidence to see strength in a women as it is, a glorious attribute.

I believe there is a kind of pendulum effect, on one extreme you have a door matt, on the other the bitch, and both are weak. The strong women is neither, because she doesn't have to be either. You exude this in your posts and your pics.

I'd say it is a complement that you don't get many guys hitting on you, most guys aren't strong enough. It isn't a question of how others see you, I think the better question would be how do you see yourself?
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Old January 1st, 2008, 08:37 PM
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Well Krista, as life has it I won't be hitting on you, but it wouldn't be a big leap. In your pics (I haven't met you in person yet), you are beautiful, strong woman. I think that may be part of it. How many men like strong women? I'd say plenty in number, but little in percentages.

And I'm not talking about just the body, that is clearly strong and in full view of any onlooker, I'm talking about the strong person. I don't know too many men that know themselves enough to have the confidence to see strength in a women as it is, a glorious attribute.

I believe there is a kind of pendulum effect, on one extreme you have a door matt, on the other the bitch, and both are weak. The strong women is neither, because she doesn't have to be either. You exude this in your posts and your pics.

I'd say it is a complement that you don't get many guys hitting on you, most guys aren't strong enough. It isn't a question of how others see you, I think the better question would be how do you see yourself?
Always there for me Fisher! Do you know I grew up in Fisherville? Side note.

I can be a bitch (rarely these days), and have been a door matt many many years ago. I think being a door matt is what turned me to my bitch phase.

Regardless, you are right on many points. Men, women... all the same. I guess a "together" person will attract a similarly "together" mate. And if I think on it, when you have your stuff together, no "hitting on" required. It just kinda happens.

When I ask my now husband why I never knew he was interested in me (we were friends / training parters at the gym for over a year before we went out on a 'date')... meaning why he never "hit" on me.... his response: I thought I was! I guess it takes a strong hit to make contact with a strong woman. I don't remember him hitting on me. When he first talked to me and asked me "how long have you been training?", I seriously thought he was interested in lifting? I am from "Fisherville" - a little naive I guess.

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Old January 2nd, 2008, 01:25 PM
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When I ask my now husband why I never knew he was interested in me (we were friends / training parters at the gym for over a year before we went out on a 'date')... meaning why he never "hit" on me.... his response: I thought I was! I guess it takes a strong hit to make contact with a strong woman. I don't remember him hitting on me. When he first talked to me and asked me "how long have you been training?", I seriously thought he was interested in lifting? I am from "Fisherville" - a little naive I guess.
Hey Krista. I think the different personalities among people also needs to be taken into account. To your husband, this was attempting to "hit" on or approach you, but to many others, strong women or not, this would seem as everyday conversation. I can speak from example in that I was extemely shy all thoughout school (I still am a bit), so it took a lot for me to just to say "hi" to a girl. God forbid I added in a "how are you?", "my name is...". So to me this was a big deal (often walking away with a victorious smile if they too responded with a "hi" in return, savoring and replaying my triumph all day long ), but they most likely thought nothing of it other than being polite. So while he may have been inerested in how long you've been lifting, I also think he saw it as an opportunity to break the ice.

Just my thoughts.
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