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Old April 30th, 2012, 12:25 AM
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Thanks, lowering the basal and bolus amounts slightly overall should not be a problem. Would you recommend replacing the lunchtime carbs with some healthy fats and veggies or just veggies?

Also how long do you reckon it will take me to drop to close to 10% bf and the effects this will have on my insulin sensitivity/ amount required? Know these are difficult / vague questions to answer. Thanks,
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Old April 30th, 2012, 01:12 AM
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Very interesting thread here and I'm following this picking up a lot of good info as 1) I have a type 1 client that I just picked up and 2) I know a lot of guys who self inject insulin for muscle gains.

I have a family history of Diabetes both I and II however I never really looked into this area in too much detail. And what has me intrigued is that a lot of guys are pumping insulin PWO and eating carbs to put on muscle gain as the insulin opens up the muscle receptors to store the glucose. Insulin is a very powerful substance.

And you are stating that higher insulin leads to fat gain or not losing fat. So this kind of contradicts in my mind what the gear heads are doing in the gym. Most of them that I know who do this are using about 4 iu of Humalog (fast acting) or Humalin (med acting) insulin PWO in conjunction with and HGH in the morning. Some are doing 2 IU of humalog in morning then med acting insulin post workout. I've witnessed large muscle gains and very good cutting of fat from a few on a well balanced diet low carb except PWO and a few before WO.

The amount they inject is a lot lower then what I think you are stating you do but many of these guys stay on Insulin for a long time and rarely rotate off it. Sometimes taking 8 weeks on and 2 weeks off. Never checking their blood sugars.
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Old April 30th, 2012, 02:14 PM
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yea pretty sure high insulin levels are counter productive to HGH especially at night seeing as it is a storage hormone. Crazy the stuff these guys take to try and gain size and strength.

Will make changes to my diet and keep you guys updated on progress.
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