[rlbrown]

I was wondering if any one has had success by using the IF principle but with only a 12 hour fasting period? After this then proceed with the PN system of eating every 2-3 hours.

I understand the 16 hour window, but my gosh that's extreme to my and my clients.

Thanks in advanced.

Robert L. Brown

[ripock]

by a 12 hr fast, do you mean 8 hours of sleeping and then fasting for four hours? If so, I don't suspect you will really see much of anything. Hell, I do that most days.

But give it a shot. You never know 'til you try. For two months I did 48 hr fasts (Friday breakfast 'til Sunday breakfast) and didn't feel much: I wasn't especially hungry and I didn't really see a change in my life (except that I was extremely bored). I never would have anticipated my results. Yours may be just as unique. Do it and tell us what happens.

Originally Posted by rlbrown

I was wondering if any one has had success by using the IF principle but with only a 12 hour fasting period? After this then proceed with the PN system of eating every 2-3 hours.

I understand the 16 hour window, but my gosh that's extreme to my and my clients.

Thanks in advanced.

Robert L. Brown

[Fredrik]

Originally Posted by rlbrown

I was wondering if any one has had success by using the IF principle but with only a 12 hour fasting period? After this then proceed with the PN system of eating every 2-3 hours.

Why bother about IF if you find it too extreme? I can't see that it would bring any magic advantages that a normal healthy life style doesn't add - it's just another way of eating which may suit some lifestyles better.

[ripock]

Originally Posted by Fredrik

I can't see that it would bring any magic advantages that a normal healthy life style doesn't add - it's just another way of eating which may suit some lifestyles better.

You obviously haven't been reading the IF books. There is a lot of magic contained therein. According to the books, the IFer will gain mental clarity, boundless energy, hormonal balance, cure diabetes and possibly prevent cancer, and one will have the honor of eating like our ancestors.

[JC Maxwell]

If you really want to reap the benefits of a shorter fast, try training at the end of your fast on BCAA's, then break your fast post workout.

[Philo84]

I tried a lot of fasting protocols. Leangains, Eat Stop Eat, Warrior Diet and I now would say, there is no real difference between any of this protocols. The easiest way is the Warrior Diet in my opinion.

A typical day in my life for example looks like that:

5:30 --> 1 cup of black coffe with 15g whey and 1 tsp cocoa
6:00 --> Conditioning
9:00 --> 150-200 cal snack, mostly fet-free fish with veggies
1:00 --> same as 9:00
5:00 --> 15g whey protein with a piece of fruit
6:00 --> Martial Arts
8:00 --> Main-Meal (low carb or high carb, dependent of training intensity)

It works better for as the leangains approach did. Just important to have really small snacks during the day and a healthy and good main meal at the end of the day.

[rlbrown]

Well I too follow more of the warrior diet (I think). This has seemed to be the easiest programming in-conjunction with the varying workout schedules.

Meal 1 - Amazing Meal by Amazing Grass

Meal 2 - Super Shake

Workout

Meal 3 - Post Workout Shake and normally a fruit

Meal 4 - Super shake

Meal 5 - Big meal

Now on the weekends I have found it easy to follow the lean gains system, so I guess we are using a mixed approached.

I just wanted to make sure I was somewhat on track. Lord knows I need all the help I can get.

Thanks,

Robert

[tomprz]

I just started PN yesterday - but have been doing IF for about 6 weeks with marked improvement in getting leaner, muscle growth, energy, and appetite control. I fast about 18 hours per day, 5-6 days per week. I stop eating with Dinner at about 7 PM, do not eat in the morning (other than vitamins and black coffee,), and then train fasted from noon-1 PM after a pre-workout booster (I like White Flood) with just BCAA's in the tank. My first meal of the day is at about 1 PM - which tends to be a PWO shake.

I've found it pretty easy to stick to - but on days that I train in the morning before work - it is harder to stay fasted, Even with the BCAA's. Anyway - I agree with these folks. Read Berardi's e-book, and read leangains as well. If you don't get and understand the science behind it, it won't make much sense, and probably won't be as effective.

[Sandbag]

Isn't IF with a fasting period of 12 hours what most people do? Breakfast 8am, lunch 1pm, dinner 8pm, fast until next morning. 8pm-8am is 12 hours.