[scorpiogrrl]

Note the 15g referred to by Dr. Berardi is just the total amount of liquid, not any portion such as total EPAs/DHAs etc. 1 tbsp = 15ml which = 15g.

[Mark Shields]

Originally Posted by ripock

nope. You have it. It isn't really that bad. A morbidly obese person wouldn't have a problem with eating 29 hershey's kisses during the day

LOL, love it

[Richard Paul]

Originally Posted by ripock

you're asking how to persuade a client to spend the extra expense. I am not a health professional, but the way I account for the added expense in my life is that I acknowledge that it isn't an added expense. If you're eating correctly, you're not spending over $100 a month on coffee drinks, another $100 on alcohol, another $100 on fast food or soda pop or pastries. Therefore by cutting out the bad food and adding fish oil, a person is still actually making a profit.

I may be taking it to an extreme, but my weekly food budget is $25. I and my wife can go to the local Bob Evans or Dennys and pay that much for a big fatty carby breakfast, or I can eat whole foods I make myself. I choose the latter and save a ton of money.

ripock, if you don't mind me asking, how do you budget only $25 a week for food? Where do you shop and what are you buying? I'm a grad student on a pretty tight budget, so I find it difficult to afford high quality PN appropriate food. Just buying enough lean protein for the week tops $25/week for me. Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated.

Thanks!

[ripock]

Originally Posted by Richard Paul

ripock, if you don't mind me asking, how do you budget only $25 a week for food? Where do you shop and what are you buying? I'm a grad student on a pretty tight budget, so I find it difficult to afford high quality PN appropriate food. Just buying enough lean protein for the week tops $25/week for me. Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated.

Thanks!

I shop at IGA, which if you don't know is essentially a little neighborhood market. It has about 5 aisles, one wall being the produce section, one wall being the butcher, and one being the dairy. For lean protein, a bag of beans lasts all week and costs two dollars. Or I can get a little box of gluten flour for $3 and make enough seitan for a week. Then, with the rest of the money I buy produce and fat (nuts, olives, avocadoes). Being cheap is easy when one is plant-based. Of course I would suggest doing that yourself, but even if that's too much for you right now, use plant-based eating as your fall-back option: buy as much eggs and chicken as your budget allows and then with your last few dollars get a bag of lentils to fill out the week.

[janellyule]

OK. Now, I'm really confused.
A TBSP of Carlson's has 4800 mg of fish oil. Let's call it 5000mg or 5 grams. To me, that means a 30% BF client should take 6 TBSP per day.

But your saying John isn't actually talking about grams of fish oil (as in dosage); he's talking about volume of fish oil to take. And, 1 TBSP is considered to be 15 grams.

There's a big difference here.

Which one is right.

Should a 30% BF client be taking 6 TBSP or 2 TBSP during the 2-week loading phase?

[sshields7]

Originally Posted by janellyule

OK. Now, I'm really confused.
A TBSP of Carlson's has 4800 mg of fish oil. Let's call it 5000mg or 5 grams. To me, that means a 30% BF client should take 6 TBSP per day.

But your saying John isn't actually talking about grams of fish oil (as in dosage); he's talking about volume of fish oil to take. And, 1 TBSP is considered to be 15 grams.

There's a big difference here.

Which one is right.

Should a 30% BF client be taking 6 TBSP or 2 TBSP during the 2-week loading phase?

2 TBSP max.

A tsp has 4g of fish oil, and 3 tsp= 1 TBSP... so 2 TBSP technically is 24g, but no need to bog most people down with taking an extra tsp.

When working with clients, keep it simple as possible 2 TBSP/day would be the max if someone is 30% or greater

[lillyvaz10]

A tsp is not 4 gram of fish oil. How are you coming up with that number? Carlson's highest amount is 1600mg per tsp. Which is how the person asking the questions came up with 1TBS is 4800mg or 4.8 grams. 1tsp x 3= 4800 or she rounded to 5g. Very confusing! I agree with the person asking the questions. It would be 3TBS which sounds way above normal. Help please.

[rebeccatwilson]

Originally Posted by sshields7

2 TBSP max.

A tsp has 4g of fish oil, and 3 tsp= 1 TBSP... so 2 TBSP technically is 24g, but no need to bog most people down with taking an extra tsp.

When working with clients, keep it simple as possible 2 TBSP/day would be the max if someone is 30% or greater

Lillyvaz10, sshields7 is referring to the scale weight of the liquid fish oil (as does John Berardi in a post of his in a separate thread explaining this same topic here: Confused about dosage of Carlson Liquid Fish Oil).

Hope this helps!

[lillyvaz10]

Originally Posted by rebeccatwilson

Lillyvaz10, sshields7 is referring to the scale weight of the liquid fish oil (as does John Berardi in a post of his in a separate thread explaining this same topic here: Confused about dosage of Carlson Liquid Fish Oil).

Hope this helps!

RebeccaTWilson,

Yes! I understand now. Thank you very much.

[Nile]

I thought omega-3 oil in bottles were better because of the quality...
Well, I just did the count on Omega-3 oil to see what is cheapest and softgels capsules beat liquid oil 2 to 1 in terms of their prices. I can get 30 grams of fish oil per dollar if I go with a popular brand of softgels versus only 12.3grams per dollar for the liquid oil.
Verdict: I'm going back to softgels, there's enough stuff to pay for in life already :D.

Thanks for the info John.