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Old July 17th, 2011, 10:43 PM
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Juicing? Suggestions?

I have been reading about juicing on the forums and I read a lot about intermittent fasting. I am not looking to fast, but I would like to supplement a good amount of juicing in for a while. Now like I said I am not looking to drink vegetable/fruit juice all day, maybe two or three juice/shakes a day and some solid lean meat and vegetable whole meals. I am currently 334 and have started back on the PN lifestyle. I would love some advice from people that have tried it, or any advice. I see a lot of negative feedback or at least cautious comments. After a while I would like to use juicing to keep my intake of vegetables high and increase my micronutrient intake. So maybe in time just have one a day. Any suggestions on how to start, or maybe some good recipes? Thanks!
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Old July 17th, 2011, 11:00 PM
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Dang it, I thought this was going to be a thread devoted to PED stacks.

Anyway, I think you will find yourself being left really hungry by having those juice meals. Your body doesn't have to process the vegetables and it zips right through you.

I think you would be better served just following the default settings on PN for a while. Especially for fat loss. When you eat whole food (as long as you don't overeat) it actually requires energy to digest and process the food, so that you can actually expend energy just by eating.

Sorry for being negative, but I think other tools may be more appropriate to your goals.
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Old July 17th, 2011, 11:07 PM
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No aplogies necessary, I am asking for real feedback. I don't want you to think I haven't done PN or don't know how well it works. I lost the weight before on PN got done to 300 even and then life stress shot me back up. I am not looking to have my whole diet be juice, but supplement it a little, and also to save some time in preparing foods. Also I guess I am just tired of being a terrible cook haha which I really am. Thank you for your feedback though really, I am going to weigh my options this week. And I also didn't think about that title at all haha woops someone might click looking for a solid stack of test and other anabolics.
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Old July 18th, 2011, 09:39 AM
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if you lost weight before on PN and didn't maintain then you haven't fully learned PN.

i've finally nailed down some key pieces but its taken me 7 months of struggling..
- do you have a simple process in place to get fresh food to your house?
- do you have a simple process in place to have all the food organized in your fridge and prepped?
- do you have a simple process in place for cooking the food, including measuring?
- what about cleanup afterwards in the kitchen so its all back to normal and ready to cook again?

all this stuff is trivially simple to run once you've figured it out.. but it takes a lot of time to learn.. the key is doing it in a way which isn't much effort for you to maintain.
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Old July 18th, 2011, 09:57 AM
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I assume you are referring to making super shakes and not "juicing" persay. You are much better off eating whole fruits (pulp = fiber). Drinking fruit juice only is much higher in sugar content and you end up wasting the fruit and end up taking in too many calories.

A Super shake once or maybe twice a day is fine, but you are still better off with lean meat and veggies. For my super shakes I use protein power, frozen fruit in small quantities, a powdered greens supplement or 2 handfulls of greens (spinach, kale, mustard, etc.) flax seed and fish oil.
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Old July 18th, 2011, 10:40 PM
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I was actually thinking about juicing using whole fruits and vegetables, nothing from concentrate or anything else added. Could you talk about the system you have in place and how it helps you? I kept the weight off until me and my wife split and life kind of took a harsh unexpected turn where I left PN and any kind of healthy lifestyle behind. Thank you to everyone for your feedback it really does help.
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Old July 26th, 2011, 10:29 AM
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Juicing is a wonderful way to get an extra boost of vegetable goodness. I used to start every day with a glass of spinach/romaine/carrot juice.

If you are new to juicing...

start with milder greens (and veggies) like spinach and romaine, celery and cucumbers. (kale, broccoli, peppers are very strong when juiced and most people need to acquire a taste.)

Lay off the fruit juices. Many juicing advocates will suggest juicing apples and other hard fruits, but these are adding unnecessarily to your sugar load.

To improve taste, juice a knuckle of fresh ginger with your veggies, and squeeze a half or whole lime.

Drink this alone, or use it as the liquid base for your shake.

Don't spend a fortune on a juicer until you are sure you are going to use it daily. You can get a decent juicer at Walmart for $60 - $80 (Hamilton Beach, or the Jack LaLanne when it goes on sale.)

Good luck!
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